My daughter is 19 months old now and it's impossible to get her to sleep. Typically we just rock her and give her milk. She just wants to play, or simply stays awake for hours. I've been giving her motrin to help with teething pain. She's not crying. Just not sleeping. It's to the point where I have to hold her and let her get upset and then give her milk to get her to bed. It's really pushing me and I'm done with it. I have never done the cry it out thing, except for a couple times for a few minutes and she gets so scared she immediatley throws up. I need ideas. I'm so pissed off tonight I just have to put her down. Do you still rock your kids to sleep? I want her to begin putting herself to bed more. How to transition into this? I've tried lying down with her but she just plays.
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Re: How do you get your toddler to bed?
Sun, December 2, 2007 - 7:38 PMthats a toughie!
i still have to lie down with the two year old. i will usually lay down with her on the couch and watch tv.
what about waking up time? does she get up early? if not, do you think getting her up early will help her go to bed early?
warm baths and reading.
the six year old i read to him, and here lately the 2 year old is with us and she goes to sleep also...
i hope you find something that works soon i know how frustrating that is. good luck -
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Re: How do you get your toddler to bed?
Mon, December 3, 2007 - 12:31 AMhaving had lots of experience myself and hearing others (I used to run a mother-child group), I can say that the following things help:
plenty of outdoor play, no matter wht the weather, early dinner, no sweets or cookies, sweet drinks, vitamin C etc, regular routine (i.e. bath, music toy, dim lights singing/story etc, and then a firm good night, leave the room and stick with it.
no milk after dinner. I mean, if you had the choice to stay up late, hang out with your favorit people and suckle on a bit of comfort food, - or go to bed and just sleep..- which would you chose?
you have to lay down the law when it comes to the routine. As a parent you have to, I mean HAVE to establish self nourishing times, typically in the evening, otherwise you just get frazzled in the end. (you are starting to feel it..)
If they have always been cuddled to sleep, the transition is hard,- and I would make it gradual, i.e. establish that she needs to lie in her own bed, but you sit and read a book nearby (your own book, for You I mean),- and then after that works quite well (and dont even think about trying to justify what you are doing.. she is too young to understand,- and she will just get into the routine to "argue" with you.. (i.e. screaming fit etc). Just be firm, not angry, not molly-coddling her..
Let her feel that you trust in your decision,- and then she will have a much easier time to accept.
People with many kids just kiss the baby good night in their own bed and leave the darkened room, and the kids have no roblem with it.. Its the parents usually, who have a problem starting with that., and if left for too long,- the kids sense the uncertainty when introducing the new regime.
Having said all that, I have a daughter who has a mild form of autism, called Aspergers Syndrome- and she has Always had real trouble getting to sleep. So at about the age yours is now, I decided to give up, sat with her in the darkened room for a while and then said good night,- I left the room, she was quite content, just couldnt get to sleep. At age 6 she would stay up til 4 or 5, if she had found a fresh set of books to keep her company..
In the mornings she managed to get up reasonably ok,- though not brilliant.
I cannot recommend you let your child just stay up until whenever.. - but that was how it had to be for her.. given her unique little brain. So as always, there are exceptions to the rule.
Hope this helps a little.
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Re: How do you get your toddler to bed?
Mon, December 3, 2007 - 7:35 AMI got mine to start going to bed by reading every night, I just made it fun to go to bed because we get to read and I would read for a half an hour and then lights out and he would go right to sleep. Hope this helps. -
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Wed, December 5, 2007 - 6:42 AMI struggled with this as well. I know how fustrating it can be. My son didn't start a solid schedule till he was about 3. It's really true, you have to decided to do it. The thing is I had to make it fun for him. Positive reinforcement has always worked for me. We made a chart that every day he got to tear off a day and when he got to the goal he got a special prize. When I tell you I was pulling out my hair for years with him and sleeping I'm not kidding. Literally the day we made the chart he has slept in his own bed when we put him down and we have never looked back.
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Re: How do you get your toddler to bed?
Wed, December 5, 2007 - 10:48 AMThe thing I know that worked for me is to...SET A SOLID ROUTINE and stick with it, no matter where or what or who or how!!! This way, your child learns what to expect and wont feel like he'll be missing out on anything or be surprised my anything because he'll already know what to expect and what will come next.
I started teaching my son how to self-comfort at night time when he was about a year old, maybe younger. Everynight, when it was time for bed I would do the same thing with him (took about an hour), read books on the bed while he drinks some warm milk, then wash his face and hands, brush his teeth, go back to the room, turn on the fan (the humming is very soothing), have him turn off the light switch, hold him in my arms for a few minutes while I hum a song, lay him down in his bed, tuck him in, tell him I love him and that I'll see him tomorrow...then leave the room. In the beginning, he'd be up crying for me...but I just had to wait it out, 5/10min, at a time, then I'd go back in, lay him down....but no talking! I wouldnt acknowledge his crys with words...just a shhh shhh shhh...lay him back down, retuck and leave. This would go on for about 30min...but by a week of this....he was fast asleep on his own come bed time.
Also make sure your daughter is eating enough during the day and taking her naps, at her age she should be napping at least 3 hours a day, and that shes getting some form of physical activity. Whether it be you chasing her around the house, her playing outside and chasing after a ball...something. If a child is too too tired, her "second wind" takes affect and it seems like she could go on an on and on for hours then she crashes...and if she's too well rested (with naps) it can seem like an impossible time to get her to sleep...because obviously she isnt tired. You have to find a happy medium.
Dont worry, it will resolve, you just gotta stick to your guns.
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Re: How do you get your toddler to bed?
Sun, December 9, 2007 - 9:41 PMI'm just so frustrated. It's 9:30 and I just spent all the time trying to get her to bed, and she's still up. I'm exhausted. She gets up at 7 in the morning and takes an hour to two hour nap. Usually more around an hour. I do have a routine with her. She eats well. She's probably getting more teeth but I gave her motrin. She's also getting up a lot constantly, so that when I'm just about to fall back asleep she wakes up again. It's hard for me to go back to sleep because i"m so on edge. I can't let her cry because she throws up, or poops, or both. I'm just getting angry with the whole situation of trying so hard to get her to bed and her fighting me, and then not sleeping, or waking up all night. It's just not healthy. I want her to self-soothe more, and I don't know how to get to that point without letting her cry. I try lying down with her (she sleeps in our room), but she doesn't want to go to bed, she cries, or plays. SHe's seemed really cracked out at night lately, so maybe she is overtired. I don't know. I just needed a good bitch. I'm so done with this. -
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Re: How do you get your toddler to bed?
Mon, December 10, 2007 - 7:41 AMis there a room that could be hers? my daughter does not sleep nearly as well in the same room with us as she does on her own. As soon as we moved her out of our bed (at around 15 months) we moved her into her room, which is right next door to ours. When we travel and she either shares a bed or just the room with us, she would rather stay awake and socialize. maybe she needs her own space. -
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Re: How do you get your toddler to bed?
Fri, December 14, 2007 - 4:56 PMTwo different families taught me that about 2 hours before sleep time encourage the toddlers and somewhat older chlidern to just go nuts. It is done in a routine like way the kids can count on every night. One would have an hour of tumble mat time with the kids lined up to take turns letting loose with the somersaults...and the other would put on the long polka song and the kids would run and dance on everything until it ended..very fun to do with them too. They would be somewhat amped and giggling with each other and the parents...but within another hour or so the eye lids would start to flutter and it was bed time. It seems this is created a nice routine with a big fun loud climax to the end of the day for each family. Of course there is reading winding down time too , you can't just amped them up and expect them to fall over into sleep;)
My sister says (after four kids) that every time you think the current phase your kid is in is going to make you homicidal don't worry it is about to change..LOL. They will move out of it and into another phase that will soon have the same effect...LOL.
Definitively in older toddlers and children..no food or caloric drinks before bedtime for a variety of reasons.
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Re: How do you get your toddler to bed?
Mon, December 31, 2007 - 5:46 PM"I'm just so frustrated. It's 9:30 and I just spent all the time trying to get her to bed, and she's still up"
Piper look at what you wrote, and examine it. I just spent all the time trying to get her to bed. What does this mean? putting a child to bed means you lay them in bed cover them up and lights out. there is no time getting them to bed. If she gets up firmly lay her back down no anger no frustration no lectuer "sally its time to go to bed"
shes still up? do you mean awake but laying quietly in bed? then fine do you mean out of bed and playing.. put her back in bed. Do you let her have toys in bed? take them away. Toys in the room? remove them.
You are in controll
choose to take the controll, your daughter is skillfully pushing your buttons
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Re: How do you get your toddler to bed?
Tue, December 18, 2007 - 2:32 PMRoutine, routine routine... that's what saved us. We keep switching things up every couple of weeks (giving each thing at least a week of trying). Taking a bath worked but we're too impatient to keep it going, music came and went as my husband got really sick of repeting the same album... its got to work for all of you.
Here's the current routine (we've been doing this one for about 4 months and its great for us):
8:30ish... put away toys, brush and floss, jammies & diaper, Maya picks 1-3 books from the shelf and puts them on the reading chair, switch lights from big light to low key Ikea light, read stories, Daddy kisses, lights out, Mommy kisses, Mama closes the door.
I don't know why lights out before I give kisses works better, it just does, if I can see her face she must see the snuggly inside and begs to sleeps in Mama's bed... so lights out first avoids this one. -
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Re: How do you get your toddler to bed?
Wed, December 19, 2007 - 4:21 PMWarm baths and massage work wonders. It doesn't have to be a full on bath with washing up with soap, but just sitting in a bit of warm water. My daughter has severe eczema, so we have to rub her nightly anyway, but the massage coupled with the sleepy feeling she gets from the bath gets her ready to go to bed. Usually she will fall asleep before we put her pjs on! That can be a hard routine to do on a daily basis, but that works for us a couple times a week.
I have found that for my 2 year-old, it's best not to read in the bed. If we read in the bed then she wants to get more stories and read them to herself and then she gets out of the bed. Instaed, we read books in the living room before going to her bed. We brush teeth and then she goes to the bed and I always give positive reinforcement about what a big girl she is and how proud I am when she goes to the bed by herself. For us, beds are best for sleeping and nothing us... not playing, reading, etc. So, once she is in the bed she knows what time it is.
Fancy PJs also helped. By fancy I mean the kind she picked out for herself and gets to wear because she's a big girl who can sleep in her own bed. We also have a nightlight for her which seems to help. Whatever routine you decide to use, just stick with it! -
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Re: How do you get your toddler to bed?
Wed, December 19, 2007 - 8:47 PMI bribe mine with a puppy and espresso ;-)
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Re: How do you get your toddler to bed?
Mon, December 31, 2007 - 5:34 PMthe key is routien and breaking some of the bad habits you have started.
First keep her on a schedule and do not cut out naps, over tired children sleep less not more.
A typical 19mo old schedule usaly looks like this
Wake 6 or 7am
eat breakfast
play
have a snack at 9am
play
eat and noon
lay down for a 1-2 hr nap after lunch no longer than 2hrs though.
play
snack at 3pm
play
dinner at 5 or 6
bath 7:30
bed by 8pm
make the bed time routien the same brush teeth, after bath, jammies, read 1-2 books lights out.
No rocking and absolutley no milk.
Milk before bed causes tooth decay and baby bottle mouth in addition it actually causes less rest full sleep too much fluid in the bladder causes children to wake up diapers get too wet etc.
There need to be rules about bed time. No playing no getting up no talking and mom and dad can not rock pick up sit with or lay down with the child. If she gets up put her back in bed say its time to sleep. Shut the door. Do not give into to screaming or crying do not let hewr get out of bed or play let her know the rule is she does not have to sleep but she can notr get out of bed or play or talk etc.
I can tell you your life will be miserable for about two weeks as you break the current bad bed time habits, but in the end if you stick to your guns you will have a well behaved child who does not fight you at bed time goes to sleep stays asleep and knows how to put her self back to sleep.
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Re: How do you get your toddler to bed?
Mon, December 31, 2007 - 5:38 PMPiper some kids teach them selves to throw up as a controll thing... weird I know but you can do 2 things to break this
#1 stop the milk its bad for her its bad for her teeth you can't vomit up nothing
#2 do not react you are getting upset she is winning, when she gets so upsett tell her "sally you are fine nothing is wrong stay in bed its time to sleep" If she vomits do not over react clean it up lay her back down stick to your guns no matter what
Do not react to her screaming... going to bed on her own and crying will not scar her for life, she can do this, you are the parent you are in controll